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<p>On the industrial outskirts of Oakland, California, tucked among the timeworn facades of warehouses and workshops, there’s a building entrance so nondescript it defies capture by photography—not only would you never notice it if you walked right past it, you wouldn’t even be able to see it if you were looking directly at it. Security is a paramount concern for cannabis businesses operating in “The Town,” and thanks to a serendipitous quirk of forced perspective and pre-war architecture, would-be bandits would have an easier time robbing the Hogwarts Express. This is ideal for a business trying to prevent unwelcome visitors, but much less so for a visiting journalist with a faulty sense of direction and a penchant for getting stoned before big interviews.</p>
<p>In addition to being monstrously difficult to locate, once you step inside the building housing the corporate headquarters for <a href="http://jamesloudgenetics.com/" title="">James Loud Genetics</a>, it gives the distinct impression of being—to quote <em>Doctor Who</em>—“bigger on the inside.” Blazing white, labyrinthine hallways with soaring ceilings (accented with large television monitors displaying high definition photos of different stages of the germination and tissue culture processes) connect to specialized, climate-controlled lab rooms, processing centers, and the plush lounge that serves as the studio for the <em><a href="https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGes9EoM4Sm5SyIVjgwVhU3A50a2HHHrb" title="">James Loud Podcast</a></em>.</p>
<p>The titular host of that podcast, <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jamesloud/?hl=en" title="">James Loud</a>, is the founder and primary breeder at James Loud Genetics, a cannabis brand with deep roots in the pre-legalization weed game.</p>
<p>Loud cracked his first seed in 1995, at the age of 14, and never looked back. Since then, he’s been exploring the bleeding edge of breeding techniques and technology, always staying true to his name and seeking the same Holy Grail—louder terps.</p>
<p>The son of an engineer, Loud’s process has always been rooted in experimentation and innovation, and in the early days of his breeding career—when police helicopters were still actively scanning for the telltale heat signature of a commercial indoor cannabis grow—he responded with a technological solution.</p>
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<p>“I had a garage grow and we grew in octagons,” Loud says. “So we had vertical growing because we were worried about the footprint for the infrared from the helicopter. So we thought the footprint would be less so the heat signature would be less. And so we grew in these vertical grows where we had 26 plants per light, and they all grew towards that center light.”</p>
<p>With that problem more or less solved, he settled into the business of actually growing cannabis, with varying degrees of success at first.</p>
<p>“I really like Chem Dawg, so I grew some and it was just this wall of larf, it was terrible… outdoor it was phenomenal, indoor it was phenomenal in beds, but it wasn’t meant to be grown in a vertical system with a short veg [period], because it likes to stretch… The best thing for the octagon was GDP because it has a very short veg, so you can take something like GDP and veg it for seven to 10 days max and it still wouldn’t get to the light.”</p>
<p>Loud has made a lifelong career from cannabis breeding, a decision that has taken him on a decades-long personal and professional journey, with stops around the world, from Colombia to Spain and beyond, and it all began in the pages of <em>High Times.</em></p>
<p>Like many of us who discovered cannabis before the advent of the internet, Loud found information and inspiration in the pages of this very magazine. One year after smoking his first joint at the age of 14, he read something that changed the trajectory of his entire life.</p>
<p>“There was a <em>High Times</em> article when I was younger called ‘The Million-Dollar Grow Room,’ and that was my favorite article growing up… it changed my perspective on growing. We had closet grows and stuff like that, but that article put things in the realm of financial possibility,” he says, then smiles a bit sheepishly and admits, “And I just love <em>High Times</em>.”</p>
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<p>It’s a sentiment that’s proven to be mutual. James Loud Genetics has secured six <em>High Times</em> Cannabis Cup victories and was inducted into the <em>High Times </em>Seed Bank Hall of Fame in 2014.</p>
<p>“Now I want to do ‘The Billion-Dollar Grow Room, and you can only do that with seeds,” Loud says. “We can make a billion dollars with seeds, no problem.”</p>
<p>Considering the facility’s current production rate of roughly seven million seeds per year, $1 billion in revenue doesn’t seem that farfetched.</p>
<p>His decision to dive headfirst into the risky, unregulated world of clandestine cultivation immediately led him down the path of innovation and experimentation. And once again, <em>High Times </em>played a role in his journey.</p>
<p>“I got the Phototron, you know the ones that were in the back of <em>High Times </em>magazine,” he says with a smile. “The first time we grew, one of my friends fucked it up, he poured a whole gallon of fish emulsion and made the weed taste like salmon.”</p>
<p>But, of course, things got better.</p>
<p>“From the moment I got green bud, I loved the taste, the smells, everything about it including the high,” he says. “I was into all the different flavors, and that’s what’s always motivated my breeding.”</p>
<p>Loud is an experienced cannabis connoisseur, and as a breeder he’s all too familiar with the fickle winds of fashion—this year’s superstar strain is tomorrow’s forgotten fad. So it’s not terribly shocking that he’s a bit of a classicist when it comes to the cultivars he’s passionate about; you’ll often hear him talking about the big names of yesteryear, like Super Silver Haze and Romulan with deep reverence and love.</p>
<p>But there’s one particular cultivar whose haunting siren song still echoes tantalizingly to him from a not so distant past, and his eyes glisten with the light of a secret flame when he speaks her name: Cat Piss<em>.</em></p>
<p>“That <em>needs</em> to be mentioned in the article, how much I love Cat Piss,” he says. “That’s my desert island strain… it’s super nostalgic, we got it in the ’90s, like mid ’90s.” </p>
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<p>For Loud, it was the first cultivar he ever smoked that passed what would become one of his go-to tests for gauging just how “loud” some weed is, the re-fire test.</p>
<p>“It’s the first thing that I really remember that you smoked it down to the roach, and you fired it up the next day or even a week later and it still tasted like Cat Piss,” he says.</p>
<p>Younger readers—those of you acclimated to cannabis with the sweet, approachable cake and candy flavors that dominate the current terpene landscape—may not realize that us late 20th century smokers once sought out weed that smelled like animal excretions. Both Skunk and Cat Piss were once towering giants in the minds of stoners seeking the strongest strain, highly prized for the intense intoxicating effects that came along with their raw pungency.</p>
<p>Skunk is undeniably the biggest name that emerged from that era; an amalgamation of three classic landrace cultivars; <a href="https://hightimes.com/culture/music/cannabeginners-the-history-of-acapulco-gold/" title="">Acapulco Gold</a>, Colombian Gold, and Afghani, that smelled just like its name. But if Skunk and its direct descendants are like The Beatles and The Rolling Stones—universally acclaimed, widely known, and indelibly linked to the era that produced them—Cat Piss is more like Grand Funk Railroad; equally popular during their shared heyday, but criminally underrated and less widely remembered in the present time.</p>
<p>Loud is setting out to change all that with a project that sits at the intersection of three of his overlapping passions, cannabis breeding, cannabis education, and <em>Cat Piss</em>, a documentary film about his breeding project to resurrect the strain with assistance from the original breeder, which he says will film “this year with a goal of releasing it later in the year.”</p>
<p>During the day of my visit he’s preparing to interview Steve DeAngelo—founder and former CEO of the pioneering cannabis dispensary Harborside—for yet another documentary project collecting the oral history of cannabis. This on top of his recently published book, a groundbreaking textbook on the technical nuances of cannabis breeding and tissue culture, <em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Cannabis-Breeding-Crafting-Distinctive-Cultivars-ebook/dp/B0CSB3TJCD" title="">Cannabis Breeding: The Art and Science of Crafting Distinctive Cultivars</a>.</em></p>
<p>Loud is building a cannabis media empire, and his aspirations are on full display in the slick, professional design of his podcasting studio lounge, which is where the majority of our meeting takes place. It has an elaborate paint job that includes a graffiti-style mural, a large, backlit sign with his logo on it, a wall of Mason jars filled with seeds, a professional array of condenser mics on telescopic stands arranged at a chic wooden conference table surrounded by comfortable office chairs, and a fully stocked bar with everything from Japanese whiskey to cold Imperial ale in the fridge.</p>
<p>The show itself is a fun, informative space where drug war veterans swap stories and give each other their flowers (and/or concentrates) while they’re still alive. The vibe is casual but serious, because everyone involved takes the craft of cannabis cultivation very seriously, but they also tend to be very serious smokers and the James <em>Loud Podcast</em> studio is definitely the smoking section at this facility.</p>
<p>The conversation is wide ranging, often personal, and always entertaining. It’s like Charlie Rose meets Joe Rogan, only instead of asking his guests if they’ve ever smoked <a href="https://hightimes.com/weirdos/i-did-dmt-with-a-comedian-and-it-saved-my-life/" title="">DMT</a>, Loud asks them if they’ve ever smoked Cat Piss.</p>
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<p>At a time when the outlaw past of this industry seems increasingly at odds with the hyper-regulated confines of its present and future, Loud provides a living bridge from past to present and a clear vision for the future.</p>
<p>“We’re slowly but surely becoming tomato farmers,” he says. “The price has gone down. People will be able to make a good living doing it still—obviously there are very successful tomato farmers—but the high prices associated with the black market are mostly long gone.”</p>
<p>The way he sees it, cannabis markets are simply maturing, the way all markets do.</p>
<p>“With mature markets, you see people trusting brands,” he says. “In these unstable markets it’s all about the latest and greatest. I look at it like a Top 40 playlist and there’s not a lot of things that stand the test of time… I think in the future brand trust is going to be a much bigger thing, instead of the latest and greatest thing.”</p>
<p>For Loud, that future is about using meristem tissue culture to secure clean, pathogen-free genetics and following his nose to the next facet of cannabis waiting to be expressed through purposeful breeding.</p>
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<p>And when it comes to all the new players in the weed game, the ones who never experienced the wild rush of the bad old days of total prohibition? Loud feels like anyone who would subject themselves to the very different challenges of the legal weed game—drug war veteran or not—is a warrior in their own right.</p>
<p>He says his most recent visit to MJBizCon convinced him that the remaining players are all driven by passion, which he believes is the key ingredient to success.</p>
<p>“They aren’t window shopping, they’re really invested in this industry,” he says. “There’s hardship, but the people sticking it out are really passionate about the plant and this is what they’d be doing even if they weren’t getting paid and that’s me, I’m that guy. I’m gonna be breeding no matter what, I’m gonna be smoking no matter what, because this is what I was meant to do.”</p>
<p><em>This article was originally published in the <a href="https://archive.hightimes.com/issue/20240501" title="">May 2024 issue</a> of High Times Magazine.</em></p>
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<p>The city-sanctioned version of the famous <a href="https://www.420hippiehill.com/">4/20 Hippie Hill</a> event in San Francisco has been canceled, but it’s not the end of 4/20 celebrations in San Francisco. <a href="https://sfweedweek.com/">SF Weed Week</a>, will feature a variety of events beginning with an art opening featuring cannabis mylar art on April 5 and a schedule of events running April 13-21. Instead of just one day of celebration, the event spans an entire week of all things cannabis, featuring cultivators and breeders at cannabis lounges throughout the city and unique strain premiers, such as releases of <a href="https://sfweedweek.com/map/">Rainbow Belts, Blue Lobster, Pink Jesus, Chikitaz, The Butcher, Sherb Haze, and Peppermint Sleighride</a>.</p>
<p>SF Weed Week creator <a href="https://www.instagram.com/daviddowns/?hl=en">David Downs</a> is an award-winning cannabis journalist and author. Downs is the senior editor at Leafly and the former cannabis editor at the San Francisco Chronicle. According to the <a href="https://sfweedweek.com/">event website</a>, Downs created SF Weed Week after thinking about what an event like SF Beer Week would be like if it was cannabis-themed instead. </p>
<p>“Weed growers are rock stars, and strains are celebrities,” Downs said through a press release. “I want to give these strain releases the same rock star treatment that album releases get at Amoeba Records. And we’re going to. It’s going to be dope.”</p>
<p>While SF Beer Week features unique new beer varieties and flavors, SF Weed Week boasts strain releases in <a href="https://sfweedweek.com/map/">participating lounges</a>, including Mission Cannabis Club, Meadow, SPARC, Moe Greens, Solful, The Vapor Room, and Flore. </p>
<p>Ali Jamalian, owner of <a href="https://www.sunsetconnect.co/">Sunset Connect</a>, is a founding advisor of SF Weed Week who is proud to be a part of an event that puts the spotlight on San Francisco weed. </p>
<p>“San Francisco’s cannabis culture has so much to offer,” Jamalian said in a statement. “It only makes sense to showcase the cannabis epicenter of the world in a week-long celebration spread across the city with an array of amazing events and activations. All for free of course.”</p>
<p>Especially in the wake of the cancellation of this year’s Hippie Hill event, fellow founding advisor Ben Grambergu, director at <a href="https://www.7starshhc.com/">7 Stars Holistic Healing Center</a>, feels that <a href="https://www.instagram.com/sfweedweek/">SF Weed Week</a> offers an alternative celebration that lifts up the community. </p>
<p>“The organizers of Hippie Hill deserved a break, and SF Weed Week is here to extend the celebration across the entire city with the best cultivators in the world sharing their gift with the most dedicated enthusiasts in the world,” Grambergu said. “Look, the Bay Area has and always will be an epicenter of cannabis culture. SF Weed Week is proving to the doom loop haters that the scene is thriving. With a week full of incredible activations, world-class cannabis, and meet and greets with the rockstars who produced it; this event has something for everyone.”</p>
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<p>Most indica and sativa labels on cannabis are incorrect, results from a new analysis show. Cultivars are generally sold as indica, sativa or hybrid of the two, promising energizing or calming effects, but this classification system probably amounts to nothing more than a trend that refuses to die. </p>
<p><a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41477-021-01003-y">A new study</a> published October 14 in <em>Nature Plants</em> re-analyzed nearly 300 samples of cannabis, and found surprising results. Researchers from Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia, Canada joined a team from Wageningen University &amp; Research institute in the Netherlands to process the data.</p>
<p>Researchers gathered and analyzed 297 samples, which were previously quantified for terpene and cannabinoid content, as well as genotyped for over 100,000 single nucleotide polymorphisms. The results indicated that sativa- and indica-labeled samples were “genetically indistinct” on a genome-wide scale. </p>
<p>“Growers worldwide label their cannabis strains quite subjectively with the terms ‘Indica’ and ‘Sativa.’ There’s nothing scientific about that. Unfortunately, retailers and consumers cannot rely on the labels that are stuck to the jars,” <a href="https://phys.org/news/2021-10-cannabis-wrong.html">said</a> Dr. Sean Myles, Associate Professor at <a href="https://www.dal.ca/">Dalhousie University’s</a> Faculty of Agriculture and lead author of the study. “There is now a broad scientific consensus that the current use of the Indica and Sativa labeling is misleading: these labels do not provide reliable information about the genetic or chemical makeup of the plant.”</p>
<h3 id="check-terps-instead-for-effects">Check Terps Instead for Effects</h3>
<p>While labeling cannabis as sativa or indica is a poor and unscientific way to categorize cannabis, researchers noted that labeling cannabis by certain terpenes is probably a better way.</p>
<p>“Our results demonstrate that the Sativa–Indica scale currently used to label <em>Cannabis</em> poorly captures overall genomic and metabolomic variation,” researchers wrote.<em> “Cannabis</em> labeling is instead probably driven primarily by a small number of key terpenes whose concentrations contribute to the characteristic aromas commonly associated with Sativa and Indica and whose variation we genetically mapped to tandem arrays of terpene synthase genes on chromosomes 5 and 6.” </p>
<p>Researchers noted more of a correlation between terpenes and labels. <a href="https://www.nature.com/articles/s41477-021-01003-y/figures/2">Myrcene, as well as three sesquiterpenes (guaiol, β-eudesmol and γ-eudesmol)</a> were strongly associated with “indica” labels, while bergamotene and farnesene were strongly associated with “sativa” labels.</p>
<p>The sativa and indica labeling might have little correlation with the cultivars’ genetic background and origin.</p>
<p>The researchers went further to the root cause of the confusion: “We hypothesize that Cannabis growers and breeders have been assigning labels to cultivars primarily on the basis of aroma profiles and purported effects, rather than genetic ancestry or overall chemical similarity.” </p>
<h3 id="most-cannabis-is-hybrid">Most Cannabis is Hybrid</h3>
<p>Preserved landrace strains grown and stabilized naturally in isolated areas such as Durban Poison or Acapulco Gold might have a better chance at being a pure sativa, or an Afghani landrace for a more pure indica. Some have been preserved for generations. But mass cross-pollination makes it much more likely to come across hybrids in retail these days.</p>
<p>In 1753, all varieties of cannabis were defined <em>Cannabis sativa</em>, per Swedish botanist Carl Linnaeus’ identification. Then came along biologist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck in 1785, <a href="https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1336775/">who identified <em>Cannabis indica</em></a>. Finally Russian botanist D. E. Janischewsky identified <em>Cannabis ruderalis</em> in 1924. But this classification system is based entirely upon physical attributes of phenotypes such as shape, leaf formation, thickness, etc.—not based on effects. </p>
<p>That said, cannabis effects can’t be defined by simply sativa or indica—nor are those type of labels likely to be scientific. In addition, many sativas can cause drowsiness, defying its categorization, and vice-versa with energizing indicas. Judging cannabis potency based purely on delta-9 THC content <a href="https://medium.com/trykecultivator/if-youre-buying-your-weed-solely-based-on-the-thc-level-you-re-doing-it-wrong-ec5422d4ddfd">is also misleading</a>.</p>
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