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		<title>Miami Losers’ Club</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Nov 2023 03:20:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>A reader on Twitter recently complained that an <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/and-then-there-were-seven-losers/">earlier article</a> referred to the candidates as “losers,” so I’m curious to know how that reader reacted to Vivek Ramaswamay’s opening remark at the GOP primary debate in Miami which used that same word to refer to the modern Republican party. Republicans lost big in Tuesday night’s elections, leading to both an Ohio constitutional amendment protecting abortion access for women as well as the passing of a bill legalizing recreational marijuana use for adults (Senate President Matt Huffman has <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/ohio-senate-president-plans-to-repeal-cannabis-legalization-if-passed-by-voters-in-november/">promised to repeal</a> the recreational marijuana bill, but there’s nothing to be done about a constitutional amendment at this time). </p>
<p>In addition to big losses in Virginia and deep-red Kentucky, Vivek also brought up national losses in 2018 and 2020 and lamented the failure of the prophesied “2022 red wave” to materialize. He put a hefty amount of blame on Republican National Committee Chair Ronna McDaniel for the losses, who, as it turned out, was sitting in the front row. She declined his offer to immediately resign on camera. He also used his opening statement to attack the moderators of the debate and mainstream media in general, pointedly ignoring the opening question that tasked him with describing his virtues compared to those of national frontrunner Donald Trump. He got some applause, he got some boos, and later Nikki Haley told him that he was scum live on national television and was applauded for it. He had a big night. </p>
<h2 id="viveks-strategy" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Vivek’s Strategy</strong></h2>
<p>Wednesday night’s debate was much more substantive than previous events, possibly because a lot of dead weight has been shaken off. Without Doug Burgum, Mike Pence, or Asa Hutchinson taking up space candidates had more room to maneuver and draw distinctions between themselves and their competitors, and no one accomplished this more successfully than Vivek Ramaswamay. </p>
<p>Several times throughout the night he was able to sharply separate himself from the predictable Republican talking points the other candidates were giving out. He was far ahead of the curve when it came to Ukraine and the United State’s <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-european-officials-broach-topic-peace-negotiations-ukraine-sources-rcna123628">growing, if unspoken, reluctance</a> to continue funding a war that is taking far too long and accomplishing next to nothing, especially in light of increased spending on Israel’s military assault on Gaza. He alone was willing to question the wisdom of simply attempting to ban a social media app with <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/tiktok-now-150-million-active-users-us-ceo-tell-congress-rcna75607">almost 150 million users in America</a> because China built it. He alone noted some difficulties in going to war with a country that happens to do over 150 billion dollars worth of business with America every year. </p>
<p>Glorious war with China, banning the perfidious TikTok, and assured victory in Ukraine are all things that almost all republican candidates think they have to vocally believe in and support, but they are all also extremely unlikely if not outright impossible. But only Vivek Ramaswamay is apparently willing to go against the orthodoxy. Vivek has always sought to set himself apart from the crowd of established politicians, and on Wednesday he cranked this up a notch.</p>
<h2 id="but-arent-viveks-numbers-still-in-the-toilet" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>But Aren’t Vivek’s Numbers Still in the Toilet? </strong></h2>
<p>Boy, are they ever! Immediately after the last debate, a Fox focus group of Republican voters had found Ramaswamay “untrustworthy” and “arrogant”. His numbers in Iowa <a href="https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/11/why-is-vivek-ramaswamy-becoming-unpopular-with-republicans.html">reflect this attitude</a>. His <a href="https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/favorability/vivek-g-ramaswamy/">unfavorables</a> are a disaster and a shocking number of republican voters have straight up said they will never, ever vote for him, no matter what happens or who is still in the race, which is not what you want to hear going into an election. </p>
<h2 id="will-this-debate-help" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Will This Debate Help?</strong></h2>
<p>Help him become president? Absolutely not, except in one very, very particular case. It’s important to remember that Chris Christie has the exact opposite opinions on China, TikTok, and Ukraine, and he’s bouncing along the bottom of the toilet bowl underneath everyone else. Republican voters aren’t deciding this election based on foreign policy. In fact they’ve already decided who they want to be president, and his name is Donald Trump. As long as he’s alive and eligible, he is going to be their pick for the 2024 nominee, and every loser on that stage knows it. They stopped running for President a long time ago. Most of them aren’t even running for Vice President; over half of them either worked directly for Trump, or owe their political career to him, and as a result are seen now as back-stabbers and betrayers for having the temerity to run against him. None of them are getting the nod from Trump. Standing behind them is Tim Scott, a weird possibly-<a href="https://news.yahoo.com/plot-thickens-around-gop-candidate-194812823.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALXkabBItF33LCC19cEGhvSJaWmznW5KfHS7zszSbh-8TmxwDXYCO5PtpPkYQicEWzMrSpZXiK-OHXC05-IEkf31yAFAmoIsMRPtsHpE4YPhYJnkcV0xzQt2ANJvAZKpAD6gMErpRr83g_M0_RZzbv5C9XBBykZcYlViFAVHukB2">50 year old virgin</a> who pronounces the word “do” with three distinct vowel sounds. He’s probably not going anywhere either. </p>
<p>And then there’s Vivek, who, while deeply unpopular, has not betrayed Donald Trump, and even went out of his way to avoid criticizing him twice on Wednesday night. There’s more than one way to end up in the White House, even if your campaign is a joke and falls apart a year before  the election. Just ask Kamala Harris. </p>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Sep 2023 03:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>As of right now, the only reason to watch these losers jump through hoops on the debate stage at the Ronald Reagan Library was to see if any of them have found a way past the primary obstacle on their way to become the next president of the United States, namely that the votes they desperately need belong to people who think <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4220518-trump-leads-gop-primary-field-by-40-points-in-new-poll/">Donald Trump should be</a> the next president of the United States. In fact a <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/meetthepressblog/almost-third-americans-still-believe-2020-election-result-was-fraudule-rcna90145">significant portion</a> of those same people think Donald Trump is the actual, legitimate president right now. So the candidates are all stuck in the unenviable position of having to argue that, yes, Trump is great, he was the best, I love him, I want him to fuck my wife, but—crazy idea, hear me out—what if he wasn’t president again? </p>
<p>This would be a difficult line to walk even for a talented politician, and there weren’t very many of those on stage this past Wednesday night. Chris Christie is the only candidate who side-stepped this dilemma long ago and made it clear that he does not think the former president is a great American and has been very critical of Trump’s time in and out of the White House. This would be more commendable if he hadn’t worked directly with the former president as recently as 2020, when he was close enough to the president to <a href="https://www.axios.com/2021/12/09/chris-christie-mark-meadows-donald-trump-covid-19">contract COVID from him</a>. Regardless, he performed very well in the debate and was even acknowledged as the most skilled debater by the Fox talking heads during one of the breaks, despite him cribbing an <a href="https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/gop-republican-debate-reagan-library/card/christie-has-his-zingers-or-quackers-ready-mkloMtqi4VCRzCpgUAwi">lame insult</a> from <a href="https://www.yahoo.com/news/kill-damn-duck-ex-dnc-head-brazile-describes-clash-trolling-trump-donald-duck-costumes-110027141.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALXkabBItF33LCC19cEGhvSJaWmznW5KfHS7zszSbh-8TmxwDXYCO5PtpPkYQicEWzMrSpZXiK-OHXC05-IEkf31yAFAmoIsMRPtsHpE4YPhYJnkcV0xzQt2ANJvAZKpAD6gMErpRr83g_M0_RZzbv5C9XBBykZcYlViFAVHukB2">Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign</a>.  </p>
<h2 id="doug-burgum-begs-to-be-taken-seriously-is-brutally-denied" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Doug Burgum Begs To Be Taken Seriously, Is Brutally Denied </strong></h2>
<p>One of the constant complaints one hears regarding primary debates, both Republican and Democrat, is that weak moderators are frequently unable to control or even guide the debate and get repeatedly strongarmed by the moderators. But Univision anchor Ilia Calderón, whose name caused such a problem for her co-host that he ended up simply calling her “Univision”,  wasn’t putting up with any of that shit on Wednesday night. Again and again candidates tried to go past their speaking time, interrupt other speakers, or take a turn speaking as they pleased and were politely but forcibly overruled. Early in the debate Governor Doug Burgum fought back hard to get a word in edgewise, managed to get himself some airtime, and proceeded to completely blow it. I am not exaggerating when I say that nobody, not on stage, not in the audience, not at home, had any idea what the hell he was talking about. He would not get another chance to speak for a long time. </p>
<h2 id="attacking-vivek-ramaswamay-is-easy-and-everyone-seems-to-love-doing-it" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Attacking Vivek Ramaswamay Is Easy And Everyone Seems To Love Doing It</strong></h2>
<p>The <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/the-first-republican-primary-debate-sucked-for-everyone-except-trump/">previous debate</a> featured less attacks on second-place Ron DeSantis and more attacks on up-and-coming Vivek Ramaswamy, a theme repeated on Wednesday night. Ramaswamy enjoyed a brief bit of press attention after the previous debate and swung for the fences every time he’s at bat, but it seems as though the other candidates all simultaneously realized that he’s still a shrimpy little nerd and that it would be very easy to push him around. His upbeat attitude disappeared pretty quickly after repeated attacks from most of the people on stage around him. Before long he was reduced to “sticks and stones” platitudes after <a href="https://newrepublic.com/post/175830/nikki-haley-burn-vivek-ramaswamy-republican-debate">Nikki Haley told him</a> that she feels dumber every time he talks. </p>
<h2 id="ron-desantis-keeps-talking-about-his-military-service" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>Ron Desantis Keeps Talking About His Military “Service”</strong></h2>
<p>You were a Navy lawyer, Ron! You’ve never worked anywhere that didn’t have air conditioning and a comfortable chair. The roughest thing you ever did was <a href="https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4221372-claims-desantis-tortured-guantanamo-detainees-unfounded-nyt/">(allegedly) help torture people</a> at Guantanamo Bay, and those guys were bound and in cages. Middle school teachers in the Bronx have more salt than you. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2023 03:00:09 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Each of the eight participants in the first 2024 Republican primary debates went to Milwaukee knowing they had to make an impact. It’s likely that they imagined this would be easier given the absence of Donald Trump, the attention-grabbing frontrunner currently crushing his opponents with ease despite his <a href="https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/">frankly impressive list</a> of state and federal indictments covering a variety of crimes. Unfortunately for them, his absence only reminded viewers why he easily coasted to victory the last time he had to compete against Republicans. </p>
<p>No one really questions Trump’s decision to skip the debate. The math makes sense: he’s polling miles ahead of Florida Governor Ron Desantis, his closest rival and the only other candidate polling in double digits, so why bother sharing space with his lessers while fielding uncomfortable questions about his several alleged crimes from moderator Bret Baier, with whom he is already <a href="https://www.thedailybeast.com/donald-trump-trashes-fox-anchor-bret-baier-after-fiery-interview">nursing a grudge</a>? Why not just stay home and watch on TV as Chris Christie, his (ahem) <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-mocks-fat-pig-chris-christies-weight-rcna98859">biggest critic</a>, takes shots at his closest competitor instead? Plus, by scheduling his surrender and booking at the Fulton county jail for <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/aug/22/donald-trump-surrender-fulton-county-jail-thursday-night">the day after the debate</a>, he can ensure that in the aftermath the press will again be focused almost entirely on himself instead of anyone’s performance at the debate. </p>
<p>Truth be told, he needn’t have gone to all that trouble. The Republican Party without Trump is exactly as boring, disconnected, and soul-crushing to watch as they were before Trump’s arrival. Nobody made an impact, nobody knew who half the participants were, and nobody will remember this debate. </p>
<h2 id="what-we-expected-to-happen-everyone-attacks-ron-desantis-desantis-has-mental-breakdown" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>WHAT WE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN: Everyone attacks Ron Desantis, Desantis has mental breakdown </strong></h2>
<p>It’s hard to imagine someone fumbling the bag harder than Ron Desantis. He began the year in an amazingly strong position and was seen by many as a sincere danger to Donald Trump, but it didn’t take long for him to reveal himself as a <a href="https://nationalpost.com/news/world/desantis-eats-like-a-starving-animal">freak</a> of the <a href="https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/03/ron-desantis-allegedly-chocolate-pudding-with-three-fingers.html">highest order</a> and a shockingly terrible politician. Month after month he would helplessly watch as his lead in the polls steadily shrank while the politicians he counted on for endorsements would immediately spurn him and endorse Trump. His campaign would face <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/08/politics/desantis-campaign-manager-replacement/index.html">multiple staffing shakeups</a> over the summer, leading to <a href="https://www.reuters.com/world/us/desantis-biggest-donor-says-he-wont-give-more-money-unless-changes-are-made-2023-08-04/">potential funding problems</a> that could end his run before 2024 even rolls around. </p>
<p>But even with these problems he’s still twice as popular as his closest competitor, which, when you look at the numbers, is still some damning-ly faint praise. He was expected to be a target at the debate, and sufficient firepower might have cracked his extremely fragile “I’m normal” disguise wide open and caused an incident on stage. His <a href="https://twitter.com/jules_su/status/1694522961703636992?s=20">sweaty, shakey smile</a> moments before the debate began seemed to presage this breakdown. </p>
<h2 id="what-actually-happened-everyone-attacked-vivek-ramaswamy-instead" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED: Everyone attacked Vivek Ramaswamy instead</strong></h2>
<p>Vivek Ramaswamy has the energy of someone from Corporate who looks you in the eye for too long and laughs too much when he talks to you, and then lays off your entire division. A lot of pundits recently <a href="https://twitter.com/TheAtlantic/status/1694556327236850073">became convinced</a> that Vivek Ramaswamy had charisma, but he was probably just standing next to Mike Pence. On Thursday night he unexpectedly and repeatedly became the target of several of his competitors and, once, after he claimed that man-made climate change was a hoax, the audience as well. The booing was unexpected and seemed to catch him off guard. Chris Christie had the best insult of the night when he remarked that Vivek talks like a Chat GPT response, but Vivek was able to laugh off most of the attacks until Nikki Haley went for his throat in the last half-hour and we finally saw him get flustered.</p>
<h2 id="what-we-expected-to-happen-mike-pence-is-booed-possibly-attacked-by-audience" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>WHAT WE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN: Mike Pence is booed, possibly attacked by audience</strong></h2>
<p>Former Vice President Mike Pence, once referred to as a “Sun-faded Department Store Mannequin” and “Fat Slenderman” by <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/brief-recap-less-exciting-2020-vice-presidential-debate/">local wits</a>, has been polling at roughly 4% nationally and is not expected to do well in this primary, or possibly anywhere in Republican politics ever again. Fans of the extremely popular former President have, on <a href="https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/donald-trump-indictment-mike-pence-jack-smith-1234799753/">multiple occasions</a>, expressed an earnest desire to hang him, and the president he served seemed to think <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/25/trump-expressed-support-hanging-pence-capitol-riot-jan-6-00035117">that was an appropriate opinion</a> to have about Mike Pence. He’s not very popular outside of the more evangelical part of the Republican Party, and even there he’s significantly less popular than Donald Trump. He was getting repeatedly booed even before he finally started criticizing the guy who supported the idea of him being lynched, and was expected to get just as chilly a reception at the debate. </p>
<h2 id="what-actually-happened-mike-pence-was-only-booed-a-little-bit" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED: Mike Pence was only booed a little bit </strong></h2>
<p>Shockingly, when Mike Pence spoke about his refusal to acquiesce to Trump’s demands on January 6th, the audience was largely supportive. During his clashes with Chris Christie and Nikki Haley the crowd was often on his side as well. He did get some boos during an exchange with Vivek Ramaswamy, though they were pretty mild.</p>
<h2 id="what-we-expected-to-happen-chris-christie-attacks-trump-a-lot-is-booed-a-lot" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>WHAT WE EXPECTED TO HAPPEN: Chris Christie attacks Trump a lot, is booed a lot</strong></h2>
<p>His unabashed criticism of Donald Trump has earned Chris Christie a lot of negative coverage in Republican circles. Even in a field of losers his numbers are hovering near the bottom. So far this hasn’t stopped him from being one of the most vocal and insistent critics of the former president. </p>
<h2 id="what-actually-happened-chris-christie-attacked-trump-a-little-was-booed-a-lot" class="wp-block-heading"><strong>WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED: Chris Christie attacked Trump a little, was booed a lot</strong></h2>
<p>Though he did get applause for some boilerplate lines about the economy or Joe Biden, his small but overt digs at Trump resulted in <a href="https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/video/chris-christie-gets-booed-first-011601797.html?guccounter=1&amp;guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&amp;guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALXkabBItF33LCC19cEGhvSJaWmznW5KfHS7zszSbh-8TmxwDXYCO5PtpPkYQicEWzMrSpZXiK-OHXC05-IEkf31yAFAmoIsMRPtsHpE4YPhYJnkcV0xzQt2ANJvAZKpAD6gMErpRr83g_M0_RZzbv5C9XBBykZcYlViFAVHukB2">extended booing and shouting</a> that Christie attempted to wait out. But the audience, seemingly emboldened by the effect they were having on the proceedings and Christie himself, kept going until Bret Baier threatened to turn this car around and head right back to Winnipeg. I expect this to keep happening at every debate Chris Christie attends. </p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2022 03:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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<p>Patients and advocates in Florida are fed up with restrictions to access for medical cannabis. Florida health officials <a href="https://wusfnews.wusf.usf.edu/health-news-florida/2022-08-30/florida-limits-medical-marijuana-dosage-supply">enacted new emergency rules</a> on August 29, imposing explicit limits on the amount of medical cannabis that patients may legally obtain and consume.</p>
<p>Advocates like NORML are concerned, saying that the emergency rules were established behind closed doors—absent of any public input. Further, the rules arrived almost six years after voters initially approved Florida’s constitutional amendment establishing a medical cannabis system.</p>
<p>On September 8, Florida Commissioner of Agriculture and Consumer Services Nikki Fried <a href="https://floridapolitics.com/archives/554637-no-cap-nikki-fried-blasts-ron-desantis-latest-medical-marijuana-restrictions/">blasted the Florida Department of Health</a> (DOH) and its <a href="https://knowthefactsmmj.com/">Office of Medical Marijuana Use</a> (OMMU), calling on them to roll back “extreme” <a href="https://norml.org/blog/2022/08/30/florida-health-officials-enact-emergency-rules-imposing-cannabis-dosing-limits-for-qualified-patients/">dosage restrictions enacted through an emergency rule</a>, a process that afforded less than three days advance notice to doctors and patients and provided no public comment opportunity.</p>
<p>Florida Department of Health’s OMMU website, <a href="https://lab.alpineiq.com/click/1418/93006/7e89b1a9-7391-4b11-806b-a0702361b8c2?redirect=https%3A%2F%2Fknowthefactsmmj.com%2Frules-and-regulations%2F%3Fcnt%3D7e89b1a9-7391-4b11-806b-a0702361b8c2%26utm_campaign%3DFL_Email_ALL_ALL_MMUR_Update_08.26.22%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dalpineiq%2364ER22-8">Emergency Rule 64ER22-8</a> <a href="https://www.flrules.org/Gateway/View_Notice.asp?ID=26220669">stipulates</a> that a qualified physician may not issue a certification for more than three 70-day supply limits of cannabis or more than six 35-day supply limits of cannabis in smoking form. Also, a 35-day supply limit for cannabis in smoking form shall not exceed 2.5 ounces. Many more restrictions were added to the list.</p>
<p>The rules do allow physicians, however, to request exceptions to the limits for certain patients.</p>
<p>Commissioner Fried announced this letter at a <a href="https://fb.watch/fpLcvNeoER/">press conference</a> held September 8 at the Florida Capitol where she was joined by medical cannabis patients and advocates, including Dr. Barry Gordon with the Compassionate Cannabis Clinic and Jodi James with the Florida Cannabis Action Network (FLCAN) to discuss why the emergency rules must be tossed out and how it can do harm to medical cannabis patients, such as ones who require higher doses of THC.</p>
<p>“This rule change is unnecessary, its implementation poorly noticed, and its impacts extremely harmful with hundreds of thousands of patients in Florida no longer able to access their medicine in the quantities they need for efficient treatment as determined by their doctors. This reflects a lack of understanding of medical cannabis by DOH and OMMU at best and is an act of cruelty at worst,” said Commissioner Fried. “We are sending a strong message to the DeSantis Administration to put patients first, protect their access to legal and lifesaving medicine, and roll back these restrictions. I will never stop fighting for our medical cannabis patients and full legalization.”</p>
<p>Watch the video of the press conference <a href="https://fb.watch/fpLcvNeoER/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">here</a>.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">I&#8217;m calling on the FL Dept. of Health to reverse course on the harmful medical cannabis dosage restrictions they just put in place under an &#8220;emergency rule.&#8221; Cutting patients&#8217; access to legal &amp; lifesaving medicine by 2/3 with less than 3 days notice is unacceptable &amp; cruel. <a href="https://t.co/RNEmIJkdcn">pic.twitter.com/RNEmIJkdcn</a></p>
<p>— Commissioner Nikki Fried (@NikkiFriedFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NikkiFriedFL/status/1567912039992926209?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 8, 2022</a></p></blockquote>
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<p>Commissioner Fried sent a public letter to Florida’s Surgeon General, who oversees DOH’s OMMU, and the letter may be downloaded <a href="https://tinyurl.com/bddtcptd">here</a>.</p>
<p>NORML’s Deputy Director Paul Armentano described the newly imposed limits as a “solution in search of a problem.” He said: “These arbitrary and unnecessary limits were established without input from either the patient community or from those physicians who specialize in providing oversight to medical cannabis patients. They will likely result in creating unnecessary confusion and they will place an undue burden upon patients and their doctors. Decisions regarding cannabis care ought to be between patients and their physicians; they should not be made by bureaucrats.”</p>
<p>Fried is an independently-elected member of the Florida Cabinet.</p>
<p>Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told a group of reporters on August 23 that <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/florida-gov-desantis-to-pot-licensees-charge-these-people-more/">medical cannabis license holders in the state need to pay more for their license application and renewal fees</a>. State officials “should charge these people more,” DeSantis said.</p>
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		<title>Florida Gov. DeSantis to Pot Licensees: ‘Charge These People More’</title>
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<p>Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis told a group of reporters on August 23 that medical cannabis license holders in the state need to pay more for their license application and renewal fees. But operators in the state say that raising application and renewal fees could spell the end for some struggling businesses.</p>
<p>State officials “should charge these people more,” DeSantis said.</p>
<p>“I mean, these are very valuable licenses,” the governor continued. “I would charge them an arm and a leg. I mean, everybody wants these licenses.”</p>
<p><em><a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/florida-gov-desantis-wants-pot-companies-to-pay-more/">CBS News Miami</a></em> reports that whether or not the governor was referring to existing license holders or future license holders remains to be seen.</p>
<p>But Florida’s license and renewal rates already exceed fees seen in other states. That could be because Florida’s licensing system requires operators to cultivate, process and sell marijuana and derivative products without limiting the number of retail locations, and lawyers say this makes the state’s licenses more valuable.</p>
<p>After stepping into his role as governor in January 2019, one of DeSantis’ primary promises is to provide a boost to Florida’s economy.</p>
<p>Gov. DeSantis pushed to repeal Florida’s ban on smokable flower. Voters in Florida passed a constitutional amendment legalizing medical cannabis in 2016, but regulations that ban smokable cannabis were passed by the legislature and signed into law by former Gov. Rick Scott.</p>
<p>Cannabis advocates sued, claiming the ban violated the amendment passed by voters. A state court agreed and declared the rule invalid, but it remained in place as an appeal from Scott’s administration made its way through the courts. However, when Gov. DeSantis took office, he said if the ban was not repealed his administration would abandon the appeal of the court ruling.</p>
<p>The ban on <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/smokable-cannabis-now-officially-available-florida/">smokable cannabis was officially repealed</a> on March 18, with Gov. Ron DeSantis signing a compromise bill that was <a href="https://hightimes.com/news/floridas-ban-smokable-marijuana-one-step-closer-being-repealed/">passed by legislators</a>. Smokable flower is, unsurprisingly, by far the most popular menu item at Florida’s over 460 medical cannabis dispensaries.</p>
<p>An earlier 2014 allowed low-THC products for certain patients. Then, medical cannabis companies part of an initial group of applicants in 2015 paid over $60,000 in order to be able to sell low-THC cannabis.</p>
<p>Then Florida’s 2016 constitutional amendment established more of what is thought of as a mature medical cannabis market with a variety of approved products.</p>
<p>Florida law requires legislative approval of rules if cost of compliance for those businesses exceeds $200,000 in one year or $1 million over the course of five years.</p>
<p>Jacking up application and renewal fees “would be unfortunate,” Brady Cobb, a lawyer and founder and CEO of Green Sentry <a href="https://www.cbsnews.com/miami/news/florida-gov-desantis-wants-pot-companies-to-pay-more/">told</a> CBS News. “If it happens, it happens,” said Cobb. Cobb added that Florida could make more money by taxing cannabis products or allowing operators to wholesale products to each other and taxing those sales instead.</p>
<h3 id="black-farmer-license-fees-also-too-high-in-florida"><strong>Black Farmer License Fees Also Too High in Florida</strong></h3>
<p>The state charged a higher fee in a recent round of applications for a license set aside in Florida’s 2017 law for a Black cannabis farmer. Under rules laid out by the Department of Health, applicants had to pay a $146,000 fee to compete for the Black farmer license which was over twice the fee from the application process in 2015.</p>
<p>“Black farmers are required to shell out $146,000 merely to apply for a license to grow medical marijuana,” the <em>Miami New Times</em> <a href="https://www.miaminewtimes.com/marijuana/florida-medical-marijuana-license-application-black-farmer-pigford-class-13163123">reports</a>.</p>
<p>Last year, Commissioner of Agriculture Nikki Fried <a href="https://news.wfsu.org/state-news/2021-10-26/fried-calls-higher-application-fee-for-a-medical-marijuana-license-reserved-for-black-farmers-discriminatory">called the high fees for the Black farmer license “discriminatory.”</a></p>
<p>The department accepted a dozen applications for the Black farmer license, but has not announced the winner of the license. A new round of license applications will launch again after the Black farmer license is issued, but the state hasn’t laid out a timeline. At least 150 applicants are expected to apply.</p>
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